Jon and Jeff interview Atticus Stovall of the University of Virginia, a lidar guru and all-around nice person, live from the top of a mountain at the University of Tennessee Biological Station near the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Atticus gives his thoughts on forest ecology and solar induced fluorescence as well while also telling some stories about traveling to Toolik, New Mexico, and many places in between. The gang also establish Combos as the null model for gas station snack food.

Music:
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band - Rocky Top
George Jones - White Lightin'

Grace, Jon, and Jeff talk about a recent paper in Nature E & E on how sampling bias affects science and policy. The gang also tally the results of last year's Impact Factor draft (and it's not that close). Jon gets a Twitter handle he will never use, we come up with several great spin-off podcast ideas, there are lots of bugs, and of course life, the universe, and everything else. 

Links:
Metcalfe et al. 2018 "Patchy Field Sampling Biases..."
Episode 28 The Impact Factor Draft!
 
​Music:
Pearl Jam - "Bugs"
The Smiths - "There is a Light That Never Goes Out"